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Was the Egyptian God Horus Crucified?

Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:01:36 +0000

Acharya S asked:

With the astounding success of the movie “Zeitgeist,” there has been a great deal of interest in the Egyptian god Horus. In that movie, which purportedly has been viewed some 100 million times, there were several comparisons between the lives of Horus and Jesus Christ. How true are these comparisons?

As it turns out, they are true for the most part, because they represent mythical motifs, not “history.” And this mythology is largely based on the movements of the sun and other natural phenomena. One of the claims in the movie that draws a large amount of attention is that Horus was “crucified.” Is this claim true?

If you are thinking that it means Horus was killed by crucifixion, being thrown down to the ground and nailed to a cross, then the claim is wrong. But if you understand that “crucify” can simply mean “to affix to a cross,” then the claim is correct, because Horus was both associated with and identified as a cross in ancient times. He was also placed on the cross of the vernal equinox, between two “thieves,” no less! That would make his story even more like that of Jesus Christ, who purportedly lived after these myths were created.

In the first place, it is important to know that the cross in a wide variety of forms, including the ones we usually think of as being “Christian,” was very popular for many centuries before the Christian or common era. The cross can be found on many artifacts in several cultures around the world dating back thousands of years. There are even ancient artifacts with people wearing crosses around their necks, just like we see in Christianity today! Other artifacts such as ossuary urns used to hold the bones of the deceased were marked with crosses centuries before the cross became important in Christianity. The cross in Egypt – the ankh – was a very sacred symbol of eternal life that can be found on countless artifacts. The Egyptians were a very religious people, and they took their faith as seriously as people do today. It is estimated that over the thousands of years during which the Egyptian religion was popular there were at least 500 million worshipers – that’s a half a billion people!

Secondly, we have many artifacts from the ancient world showing gods and goddesses with their arms outstretched in a cross shape, which is called “cruciform.” These figures from religion and mythology, which include the Greek god Prometheus and the Greek princess Andromeda, could be said – and have been said – to have been “crucified.”

The fact is that the cross was a very popular symbol long before the Christian era and that Horus was one of many pre-Christian gods and goddesses who are depicted on a cross or in cruciform. These facts mean that Jesus Christ’s placement on the cross is not unique in religious and mythological iconography. Although it has been written about many times over the past centuries, this history has not been extensively taught in schools or made available through mainstream publications such as textbooks.

For more on this subject, see my article “Was Horus Crucified?”

alexander History in Egypt

Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:17:36 +0000

Derek Dashwood asked:

The power in this story is that this happened 230 years before the birth of Christ and Christianity, and that many more years before before the birth of Mohammed and Islam. But it was within the time that we knew disciples, or followers of Buddha had arrived this far west, and had certainly reached Egypt to Greece, as Aristotle to Alexander, and it trickles down to us.

But who was this holy man at an oasis, so respected and revered in Egypt at this time, to cause mighty Alexander to go seek him, rather than have him or his head brought to him, as soon Darius of Persia? We only know that he did not seek any more than he enjoyed at this oasis, with the life so serene, to meditate heaven, and leave the world to it’s steam.

Alexander made it back to Egypt from those hottest sands on earth, to on and build Alexandria and get on with his destiny. But who was that man Alexander sought out? If he was off a new faith, it did not contain any sword. That wise man was innerly directed as we know quietly to God. Or Nirvana in his words, or how they might say. But he followed eight heavenly virtues, and none includes ****.

Alexander was taught by Aristotle, who learned this while sitting quietly with Socrates as he drank his cup of hemlock for seeing and speaking too well. Count your blessings, do acts of kindness savor life’s joy. Thank you as a mentor, and learn to forgive. In other words please forgive me first also. Stay close to your family, your friends that are true. Take care of your body, it will help see you through. Develop strategies for stresses, and hardships to come.

And those are the people who live longest and have most fun. More healthy, more happy, active and good, church going leader who is gentle with children, puppies, and love. And this comes to our story, and you think it through. The only two holy men at that point in history, unlike the multi god pharoah, who thought of one God then, was a Buddhist, and a Jew.

I wonder what if like Moses, this holy man, so serene, got lost in the desert, wandered west instead of north east with Moses through the Red Sea? Moses was lost: this man had found the promised land in the western desert, if only more fresh water could come in. This would be the place.

How is it that Alexander conquered all that area, was in of all all the mighty great statues of multi headed gods in Egypt, but only almost died in the western desert in search of a famed holy man? In contrast, Alexander conquered all. Inside fabulous Egypt, he was in awe.

In contrast, Alexander considered some holy land tribal areas fanatical in their distorted sense of their own destiny as the chosen people of God. He felt closer to God himself, having deeply discussed this with noble minded scholars in Athens, not these self righteous people of such arrogant zeal. Instead, off to defeat Persia and on to the world.

Alexander noticed there were serenely wise holy men of God, and he knew it had been his near death experience to go through that hell to realize that little moment of Nirvana with that serene man. And here is our what if. What if that was the better navigator Jew, than the louder guy Moses actually had God part the Red Sea, give him a mountain now called Arafat to come down from with ten commandments, but no map.

Meanwhile, the kid brother who commands less but gets the map, headed west. And we say it is time to bring this forward again. In my meditations, Alexander speaks to me through his horse. The front end.

And what we could do, is up river from people in Egypt, and there are quite a few, we divert half the Nile westward and give to that Jew? If we dug a canal west to Quattara, a hole in the earth, science says it would take a century to fill up. By as we know when smart Jews, with the other guy’s map, could negotiate Eden, with oasis each side, work a deal with dear Egypt, they owe it to you, slaves as to market, mercy on a Jew.

Allow new friends Libya, and old slave master Egypt, give grant you a land crescent around Quattara to the sea. If you beloved, wonderful, long suffering Jews once more became great like Alexander, one last final exodus, you would dig that canal soon, begin to fill this Eden hole and leave your hell hole to them. Create a new wall to wail, or better yet, like us, leave our old wounds back somewhere, grow up and beyond.

My ancestors, as yours were, were killed by Romans, at Maiden Castle in Dorset. on order from Rome. We go back and just ponder, and wail at our wall. We went to America, and built ourselves tall. We went west, so could you. Alexander, then Romans, said you were nuts. You conspired to kill Jesus, make us feel guilty to say.

You have here your road map from one wiser than you. You promised land was west, not parting seas just for you.I meditation daily, see loving eyes in Tibet. But when I see stern, lecturing eyes of a new Zionist settler, all dressed in black, while Palestinians since Jesus have called this land home, I sense I know Jesus, and Buddha and God, and this man is not going to the same Eden as I.

Thank you for life God. How you must despair at the **** and reign of anger of Islam fight against the old stern unforgiving Jewish God. Neither of their God or Allah mine, nor that of Buddha, who died serenely in his eighties, in the midst of a loving group meditation, which he began in this world, and completed beyond. Go west, young Jew. Sam, you made the map all wrong.

The God of Ishmael – a Sermon on Genesis 21

Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:02:17 +0000

We’ve been working our way through the story of Abraham for some time now – stories about Abraham & Sarah, Abraham & his family, Abraham & his descendents, Abraham and the promises God made to him – Abraham the ‘father of faith’.

We started the story when this aging Bedouin figure had the word of God come to him and, at the age of 72, climbed up onto his camel and headed out into the unknown.

If you have a very good memory, you may remember that Abraham rode from his homeland in Ur up to Haran in the North, then down into Canaan in the South West – to a land that was one day to be named after his grandson, ‘Israel’. And Abraham pitched his tent in that land and he claimed that land by faith, as the rightful homeland of his descendants, even though he was 75 years old and had no descendents.

If you know the story, you will remember that a strange event then took place. Three mysterious men came to visit Abraham and Sarah and shared a prophecy – that these two would have a child of their own within a year.

Abraham at this stage was 99 years old, we are told, and Sarah was well past ‘the way of women’. So she laughed when she heard the prophecy – a laugh of cynical disbelief. But her cynical laugh became a laugh of surprised joy when the baby was born as predicted, and so she called him ‘Isaac’ – meaning ‘she laughed’ (though God knows how she could have been laughing after giving birth in her old age).

It was a great miracle nonetheless. It would be a great miracle if it happened today. Today we have girls as young as 12 in Sydney getting pregnant and giving birth, but not women as old as 70 or 80. That sort of thing only happens in church!

But just when you thought that the story of Abraham was looking like a religious version of The Waltons, we find that things start to turn nasty. Sarah decides to do away with Abraham’s other son Ishmael, along with Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, and Abraham goes along with the plan and more or less condemns the two to death.

It is a grizzly scene. Sarah tells Abraham to get rid of them because she does not want this son of a slave woman to be his heir. Abraham is upset with Sarah because she’s talking about his son. He doesn’t appear to be too worried about Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, who had been his lover. At any rate, he complies and sends them both away.

And you’d think that he’d give them a camel and enough money and supplies to set themselves up somewhere else. He could have done that.

Abraham was a wealthy man. He could have given them enough food and provisions to last them for the rest of their lives. He doesn’t do that. Instead he gives them a loaf of bread and a bottle of water – one bottle of water between the two of them – and sends them off into the desert.

Hagar and Ishmael are not given enough to survive. They are given enough to get far enough away from the camp so that Abraham won’t have to see or hear them die. Well, that’s how it must have been perceived by Hagar and Ishmael at any rate. From the perspective of the author of the book of Genesis it’s not quite that simple.

You see Hagar and Ishmael aren’t simply innocent victims of Sarah’s irrational rage. Hagar used to work for Sarah before she became the mother of Abraham’s heir. This meant that if Abraham died, that Ishmael would be in charge of everything, which would mean that Sarah, if she survived Abraham, would find herself subject to Ishmael and to Hagar. And it’s clear from the story that Hagar has already worked this out, and has started acting a bit too big for her boots.

And Ishmael is not just a happy smiling toddler at this stage. He’s a stroppy young teenager, about 14 years old. And the story suggests that he’s already starting to throw his weight around with young Isaac, as teenagers are apt to do. Isaac gets his revenge of course, more so than he probably expected (or even desired).

And Abraham carries out the grizzly task under protest. He prays about it and gets assurance from God that God will take care of Ishmael (if not Hagar).

Even so, Abraham appears to be almost too faithful in the way in which he leaves it all to God – making no realistic earthly provision for his son or his son’s mother whatsoever. Certainly Ishmael would remember the day when his dad kissed him on the head and said ‘best of luck’, and sent him off into the desert with his bottle of water and with no other means of survival.

Sarah of course comes across as about as endearing as the wicked queen in Snow White when she orders the expulsion of the child, even if her own place of authority in the family was at being placed at risk.

I suppose Isaac had reason to be pleased, though I suspect that he mourned the loss of his brother. I’m sure Abraham shed some tears. Perhaps Sarah laughed again as she saw her enemies leave camp. Perhaps she felt pangs of guilt. We don’t know.

It all has the makings of a good soap opera – one man, two women, multiple children, jealousy, greed and murder. If only we had got the whole crew on Jerry Springer before it reached its tragic climax, with Hagar leaving Ishmael to die under a tree.

Ishmael should have been a strapping young lad by that stage of course, full of energy and young muscularity, and yet he apparently faded even faster than did his mother. Perhaps the emotional shock of it all was more than he could take. At any rate, we’re told that she couldn’t stand to watch him die, so she goes off a distance to die alone. But God ‘hears the cry’ of the boy and He comes to save both mother and son from death.

This is the surely most beautiful verse in the story:

“God heard the voice of the boy, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the boy where he is”. (Genesis 21:17)

It reminds me very much of another word from God that appears a little further down the track of the Biblical narrative, where the descendents of Isaac ‘cried out to God because of their slavery’ in Egypt. And we’re told,

“God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.” (Exodus 2:24)

God, it seems, tends to have his ears open to the cries of the vulnerable. As it happened in Exodus, so it happens here! God hears the cry of the boy and He remembers His promise, not to Israel this time, but to Ishmael!

God had plans for Ishmael! God had made promises to Ishmael. God was going to build out of Ishmael a mighty nation! The interesting thing of course is that this man and these promises and this mighty nation do NOT form any central part of the ongoing Biblical narrative as we have it. This all becomes a part of another story. Dare we say it – it becomes part of the story of Islam!

I think this is why I have never seen a stained-glass window depicting the life of Ishmael.

In our Bibles, the story of Ishmael more or less finishes here. In the Koran though we read of Ishmael going on to Mecca and building a Mosque there. He becomes the physical father of the Arab peoples, and spiritual father to the Islamic community!

Now it’s not my job to tell you whether the account you read of in the Koran is true or false. And it’s certainly not my job to tell you whether you should like or admire Ishmael. What I must tell you though, from Genesis chapter 21, is that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, – the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ – is clearly also the God of Ishmael!

What do we do with that?

Isn’t the Bible the story of God’s salvation of the world through His chosen people, the descendents of Abraham, the Jews, and through that special descendent of Abraham, Jesus? Yes, it is, surely, and through Jesus, we ourselves trace a spiritual link directly back to Abraham.

St Paul would say that Abraham is the father of all of us who have faith. He is the founding father of the people of God, as we count ourselves to be a part of the people of God. Abraham’s people were God’s ‘chosen people’. And now we have been called to be part of that ‘chosen people’ who live by the grace of God in the cross of Christ.

We share a spiritual identity with Abraham and his descendants. Abraham is the father of faith. His story is our story. His people are our people. His God is our God. And yet in Genesis 21, it appears that our God is also Ishmael’s God!

Hagar and Ishmael are persons with whom we do NOT naturally share any spiritual identity. Hagar and Ishmael are NOT the mother and father of faith. Hagar and Ishmael are NOT chosen by God in the same way that Isaac and Jacob are. Surely these people are NOT our people, their story is NOT our story, and yet … OUR God turns out to be THEIR God too!

I don’t know if you feel uncomfortable at the thought of your spiritual connection to Ishmael. If it doesn’t irk you particularly, try to see it from the perspective of the ancient Jews, who were the first intended recipients of this Biblical story. Think about it from the perspective of a modern Jew! For it is the Palestinian people who are the modern descendents of Ishmael.

Most Jews do not feel a great sense of natural kinship with their Palestinian brethren: “Your history is NOT my history. Your people are NOT my people. This land is NOT your land.” And yet … here in Genesis 21 we are straightforwardly reminded that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is their God too!

I don’t know if you’ve met many Ishmaels. I’ve met a few. You don’t meet many here in church on a Sunday morning. They’re not generally at church, any more than they’re at the synagogue. You’ll find Ishmael and his buddies down at the mosque. They are a different people, different history, different religion. And yet … they are children of the same God!

Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that all religions are the same (that’s what you say when you don’t take anybody else’s religion seriously). And I’m not saying that it doesn’t’t make any difference how you think of God or how you speak of God or how you respond to God. Of course it does. What I am saying is just what Genesis says: that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants is also the God of Hagar and Ishmael and their descendents.

God loved Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and He loved Ishmael and his children too. God had a special plan for the life of Abraham and his descendents, and that He had a special plan for the life of Ishmael and His descendents as well.

“Hear O Israel” Moses would later say “Hear O Israel that the Lord thy God, the Lord is one.” There is only one God. He is the God of both brothers – Isaac and Ishmael. He is the Lord of both nations – both Jews and Palestinians. Ultimately He is the Lord and heavenly father of us all!

God ‘heard the cry’ of young Ishmael as he lay dying under the tree, just as God later ‘heard the cry’ of the Israelites under ******* in Egypt, just as God hears our cries and our prayers, as He hears the cries and the prayers of those who have nothing to do with us – those who are not part of our church, and not part of our religion.

We may well understand more of God than many of our neighbours. It may well be true that many here have a deeper experience of the presence of God than would most of our neighbours. It is almost certainly true that most of us here are serving God more deliberately and faithfully than are many persons in our community. And yet, in the final analysis, our God is their God. Their God is my God. The God who loves me and bleeds for me is the same God who loves and bleeds for them. Because the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the God of Ishmael too!

By: David B Smith

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Is Egypt the Lord’ people in the Bible?

Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:34:18 +0000

Prof.dr. Ibrahim Khalil asked:

Is Egypt the Lord’ people in the Bible?

Yes

The Lord says in Isaiah 19:25: “Blessed is Egypt My people”.

Being an Egyptian, I feel proud that Egypt is the Lord’ people!

But again, this verse encourages racial discrimination; it shows that mankind is unequal, Egypt is the Lord’ people while other countries are not!

if this verse holds true then what about the Chinese, the Japanese, the European, the Americans etc.?

Do not all of these nations for examples have the right to be the Lord’ people if they are righteous?

Also, what makes Egypt the Lord’ people? Do not you remember what the Pharaoh of Egypt had done with Moses and the Israelites?

Isaiah 19:25 in different versions of the Bible:

New International Version (NIV)

The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people,

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed is Egypt My people,

The Message (MSG)

Blessed be Egypt, my people…

King James Version (KJV)

Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people,

English Standard Version (ESV)

Whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people,

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Is Egypt the Lord’ people in the Quran?

No, they are not.

The Quran declares clearly that there is no a specific nation(s) which is the Lord’ people. Also, the Prophet Muhammad said that there no privileges for the Arabic over the non-Arabic and also there no privileges for the white over the black except in respect to the Lord fearing. The more you fear your Lord, the more you are close to Him.

Again, in order to confuse, the Quran says in two verses [2:47 and 2:122] that Allah favored the children of Israel. This happened at the time of Pharaoh and Moses when the children of Israel were believers and fear of their Lord.

Verse 49:13 of the Noble Quran announces that:

O mankind! Allah has indeed created you male and female from Adam and Eve, and has made you nations and tribes that you may come to know one another. This means that you may acquire knowledge of the customs of one another and not to boast to one another.

Truly the noblest of you in the sight of God is the most God-fearing among you.

Lo! The noblest of you in the Hereafter, (in the sight of Allah) on the Day of Judgment, (is the best in conduct) in the life of the world;

Truly God is Knower, of you, Aware, of your inner thoughts.

Lo! Allah is Knower of your status and lineage; Allah is Aware of your works and standing in His sight.

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Verse 49:13 of the Noble Quran in different translations:

QARIB: people, we have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes that you might know one another. The noblest of you before Allah is the most righteous of you. Allah is the knower, the aware.

SHAKIR: O you men! surely we have created you of a male and a female, and made you tribes and families that you may know each other; surely the most honorable of you with Allah is the one among you most careful (of his duty); surely Allah is knowing, aware

PICKTHAL: O mankind! lo! we have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. lo! The noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is knower, aware.

YUSUFALI: O mankind! we created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. and Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).

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Back to the main issue of my series of articles; this is my question to you smart readers: “Is the Quran quoted from the Bible?”

Passover Celebration: the Reassurance of God’s Presence

Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:38:26 +0000

Passover is our reassurance from God that he is there to provide us redemption whenever we need Him. Our part is only to invoke Him with pure faith. He will move mountains if need be, for His children’s sake. Lets have a look at the history of Passover, where God showers his miracles to save his children, and then take a look at the present celebrations of Passover, and then delve deep into the true meaning of it.

History -

The history of Passover is 3000 years old. The Israelites were held captive by the Egyptian Pharaoh, Ramses II. The Pharaoh enslaved them. It was Moses, a simple shepherd who heard God’s command of redeeming them from their slavery. God showed him, that he was the one who would lead the Jews to the Promised Land. Moses, interestingly was born of Israelite parents, but was raised up at the Egyptian royal palace by an Egyptian Princess who could not bear a child. But, his life took a different turn, and God spoke to him about his great responsibility of leading the slaves to a bright future, where they would not have to be slaves of men, but would be followers of the true God. Although, Moses was rich(being a prince before), yet he became poor. He forsook all his riches for the Israelites and plead the Pharaoh to free them.

The proud Pharaoh would not agree to free them and God had to intervene. He send ten plagues in Egypt as a punishment that devastated the land completely. The plagues were as follows:

1.Blood , instead of water

2.Frogs

3.Lice (vermin)

4.gnats

5.Blight (Cattle Disease)

6.Boils

7.Hail

8.Locusts

9.Darkness

10.Slaying of the First Born

It was the Last plague where God warned that he would slain all the first born children of Egypt. Moses could hear the Lord’s voice at each moment. This time God commanded the Israelites as below:

Four days before the Exodus(exit from Egypt), the Israelites were commanded by the Lord to set aside a lamb or kid. During the 14th day, they were to sacrifice the lamb and smear its blood to mark their door . Up until midnight on the 15th day, they were to consume the lamb. Each family (or group of families) gathered together to eat a meal that included the meat of the Korban Pesach while the Tenth Plague ravaged Egypt. Whereas, the Israelites were safe inside their homes, Egyptian mothers cried for their first born children. This plague even killed the Pharaoh’s son’s. The Pharaoh had no choice but to fear the God of the Israelites, and he let them free, finally.

Celebrations Today

Passover is celebrated mostly by the Jews over the world. In Israel, Passover is a seven day festival. Muslims also observe a fast commemorating the Egyptian liberation of Israelites, they call it Ashura. Even the Eastern Orthodox Christian Church observes Passover according to the Jewish calendar. Not to forget that these three religions have a common origin and all of them regard Moses as one of the few God-send prophets.

The True Meaning of Passover

Isaiah. 31:5: “As birds hovering, so will the Lord of hosts protect Jerusalem; He will deliver it as He protecteth it, He will rescue it as He passeth over”

With time history fades off, Moses no longer exists among us physically. 3000 years later, presently, Passover reassures that God delivers his disciples , protects them , rescues them from all plagues and passes over all dangers of life. With the increase in violence, terrorist acts, abductions, **** and basic lack of love among human beings, man can only have faith and look up to the Divine Power. In a dark world like ours, only a divine intervention (much like Moses’ time) can pave the way to enlightenment. On this Passover, whether a Jew or not, lets all commemorate the Lord’s power, and recall all those moments, on this Passover, when He saved us from grave dangers.

“Keep on believing, God answers prayer!

Keep on believing, He’s still up there!”

He has never failed in one of His good promises!

By: dorothy smith

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Identifying the Influence of the god of Mammon and dealing with it.

Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:56:40 +0000

Lee Bacon asked:

Identifying the Influence of the god of Mammon and dealing with it.

Mammon is not money, money is just a tool it uses. Mammon was a philistine spirit that also operated through the Pharaohs in Egypt and very much operates in institutional christianity today. Its more about control than it is about money and seeks to enslave God’s people in lack and poverty as a means to control them.

Mammon using the lust of the eyes and the pride of life temptations will seem to have a promise of nice things, the promise of wealth, as it draws people into its grip. It will use even God’s word or God’s promises out of context and way out of proportion to what God’s provision is intending, and out of line with God’s relational purposes.

Until the crunch comes and he starts to put the control aspects to work in your life.

When circumstances or other people are saying to you, “work harder to just survive”, you need to back off, submit to God and take authority over mammon, loose all your business, ministry etc and declare the Lordship of Jesus Christ in all these things. Then to walk it out declare increase for all your work that you can continue to serve God for loves sake.

Mammon was what was motivating Pharaoh when Moses went to challenge him to let the people of God go. Mammon will try and resist you and you do need to push it through every day until you see the changes and blessing flowing again.

When you are taking authority over mammon there is a thing called bast can get involved. Here is the information on that.

Further to…..

When you start to hit this god of mammon, in your own life and those you are responsible for, you need to understand it is a major principality you are enforcing God’s victory against, and it does not give up without a fight, and can make circumstances look pretty difficult. There needs to be lots of prayer, and lots of focus on Jesus.

God has been saying to me “face this mountain look it square in the eye, then in the same direction look past it to Me, (Him Jesus), and I’ll help you expose this and banish it from My people, so He istaking us for an interesting ride, ”

Lets talk about bast or basjar,

As Apostle Luise who has seen this thing, has told me, it looks like a cat, it stalks like a cat looking for weaknesses.

Most people who have experienced it feel they are being stalked but can’t explain it other than that. Some have expressed they feel judgment is stalking them. I think this is because it likes to give

the illusion of superiority to the one or ones it is working through. Pride is satans weapon so it makes sense it would also be used by these demons.

When you start to hit the god of mammon stuff, the pressure increases as it resists you and you will find at your job, in your ministry, you are demanded of, to work harder for no increase. Or the debt squeeze will be on, that sort of thing.

You will need to challenge this and stand against it with prayer and with those who are applying the pressure, walk in love with them but challenge the attitudes etc.

Well when you enforce by the grace of God, (Jesus), and the power of Holy Spirit and speak to this resistance, it must let Gods people go, as Moses did to Pharaoh, there is a good chance bast will start to play her wiley games to try and distract you from transgressing the principality, of mammon.

It will take a concerted effort. Your group need to be in unity in standing and fighting. Any other prayer support you can get, call or contact them and get it.

Alternatively God will have you close ranks with those who are in unity, and you may need a few closed prayer meetings, you will see why in a sec.

Please take this to God for His specific strategies in your life personally, as any and all victory is only walked out in relationship with Him, its His victory, formulas don’t do it, relationship does.

This is the only reason we look at bast so you can discern and deal with what it does to and through your people/circumstances, if it can find your/their weaknesses.

Bast was the thing that empowered the magicians in Moses experience, when he was challenging Pharaoh. Take note, it is illusionary, its tools are limited but it was believed by the Egyptians and others to be the protector and avenger of the King/Pharaoh/god of mammon. It will mock you behind your back, don’t let people with a mocking attitude affect you.

Can manifest little demons that look like cobras, and empower people to perform lieing signs and wonders.

Some intercessors were contacting me saying they could see snakes or cobras closing in and surrounding me, and God was saying ignore them. (Not the intercessors, ignore the cobras they couldn’t touch me).

Remember its goal is to distract.

It was also referred to as the diety of ointments, perfumes. (Can create an illusion of distracting smells) -

As mammon imitates Creator God, bast is interested in imitating women’s rightful place and attacking women’s ability to produce Godly intimacy with their husbands. Or godly intimacy with God. Brings confusion in relationships.

She has also been referred to as able to bestow fertility, children, and make women pregnant.

You may find women either starting to have problems with their reproductive areas, or intimacy areas with their husbands. bast is the one who instigated in Catholicism that *** in marriage was only for procreation, part of a design to destroy proper intimacy within marriages.

basts the avenger, also in references has been referred to as the eye of ra ….. was believed to be able to rip out the hearts of transgressors and deliver to the feet of Pharaoh.

If you start to get heart symptoms or those who are close to your heart, start to experience all sorts of problems, and yet no medical evidence it is an illusion, the goal still is to distract, or avenge.

If someone is a worry wort in your group or already has weaknesses in the area of heart it could try to take them out.

The Greeks associated her with artemis who is the virgin huntress.

It likes to come with the illusion of grace, strength, speed, followed by cruelty and brute strength. (Like a big wild cat does). If you let her she can create problems.

Tries to get people to think of themselves more highly than they ought, and reactionary with who ever is coming against the mammon. Tries to throw up anything it can to cause distractions and stop you from pursuing Jesus rule in the areas which you are walking out of the clutches of mammon.

So what do you do?

Take authority over bast, in the name of Jesus, and all the effects of bast in your family, your fellowship, or wherever you have identified it is working. You can tell it to lay down, back off whatever God leads you to do. When you break the effects off your people if they have allowed it great influence they may get deliverance happen, just pray them through.

Refuse to be distracted from your current purpose, of course you have to deal with things, you may even need to confront and do deliverance, but as soon as you do come back on track in whatever strategy God has given you of enforcing the merits of the blood of Jesus in all the areas of provision, finances walking out of debt and lack. Breaking mammons grip on your life and the lives of those you are responsible for.

Praise God, our Creator our Lord, in fact Lord of heaven and earth, He is mighty and raising a people who are mighty with banners on. His banner over us is love, our banner over each other is a decision to love with His love.

Notice in Pharaohs case, even though mammon was the major principality, for it to find access to resist Moses through Pharaoh, God had to first harden Pharaohs heart.

Remember this, a hard heart in a leader gives mammon access. Please all keep our hearts soft toward God and those He has entrusted for us to be in relationship with. Pharaoh and Moses were step brothers.

Fruits of the work of mammon – Volunteer or forced labor?

- Lets smash the slavery of Institutional thinking, by acknowledging the attitude “Its ok to use up people to build an institution, or my vision, with no thought as to the cost to them personally, their family, and their generations.”

When this ugly enslaving and poverty producing attitude arises in the body of Christ we need to see it, refuse to submit to it, and certainly resist allowing it in our own life of leadership.

You say “I am not much of a leader I have only a few following me, mostly family”

You are still a leader and its most important to establish right leadership with your family first and foremost.

The saddest use of people to build something for selfish purposes, comes in families.

It is not only in parents that will use their children and expect their children to give time and talents with no remuneration, going a lot further than the training of a child, to an extreme …….

it is also when children have fostered an entitlement attitude to take advantage of or take for granted what a parent gives to them, not only in monetary terms but time effort, advice and talent as well.

So lets not think we are exempt and let the Spirit of God shine His light on our hearts as we look at this subject.

This is another aspect of how the god of mammon has weaved its ugly hold through out the church and keeps God’s people in ******* as it leads them into the trap of poverty. Mammon is a hard taskmaster and will not let you go, you must recognize its hold and determine to apply the blood of the lamb and the word of your testimony as you walk out of its clutches into the favor and blessing of God, the promised land available to each and every Christian.

Recently I was talking to a minister and he was angry because the church his son went to kept expecting him to work on his days off using his skill talent and resources to fix the church and even though they could afford to pay him, they have repeatedly just used him.

I thought well yes that’s how institutional church has always operated, so it is no surprise is it? However, God arrested my thought life and said “let me show you something.”

A few days later the young man in question came to our home for some advice from my husband. I was doing some work at home. He asked me what I was doing, and when I told him I made reference that he may be interested in looking into being a client. His answer was this, “if I

was going to do that, I have a brother in the Lord who would do it and then give me all the commission he would earn in the deal, so that’s what I would do”.

I left it at that however, God spoke to me later about it in reference to what his father had been angry about. You see I work for a wage in the same industry that most work for commission, so if I was to do that, it would mean him expecting me to take the wage that is allocated to pay our bills, and give it to him, in order to get his business.

The commission from his friend, is that mans wage, his living. What this young man was saying was that he would have no problem in building his wealth portfolio by using the talents and things his brother in the Lord does to earn a living, and then accept the mans wages as a bonus. He saw no problem with this. Yet if I asked him to come and work on something for me, then the income he is rightfully due, pay back to me when his boss paid him, he would be horrified, at the very least his father would be angry.

The expectation of this father was cranky about, and the way the local church used his son, was really in this instance an outworking of an attitude the boy carnied, and he was opened to mammon using him, because he harbored and sowed mammon attitudes in dealings with others.

In the Kingdom of God community, we should look to bless the Christian brother and pay them even more than we would pay someone who is not a brother in the Lord, for a good job done. This attitude change would lift us from a downward spiral into and upward spiral. Why?

Money is a means of exchange, it is a tool. When we pay someone well we are saying you have worked hard and done a good job – your time is worth spending, you are worth paying to achieve something here, I appreciate your efforts. Initially if you have not the money, when asking for the job to be done offer what you do have as payment, somehow show appreciation, value and honor to the person.

I am not talking about having to pay everyone who ever offers to do you a favor, it is one thing to receive an offer of a favor, quite another to expect on a constant and ongoing basis, time out of another person’s life, and what they have as a means of support for them and their household, to be just given to you for your benefit with no appreciation or honorarium to them.

When a person does a good job and then gets paid well for it has an aspect of dignity in it, it inspires them to work harder and achieve more. Even expel great effort in times needed for forward thrust in a team.

The opposite is what has been happening in Christendom for many years, and has the effect of reducing personal dignity and self worth, removing inspiration to work and expel effort, and after a while not want to be a part of a team as you are struggling to survive let alone feel you have anything to contribute to a team effort, you feel you must withdraw and can’t understand really why or how you became so apathetic about the things of God.

Jesus said you cannot serve the god of mammon and the Spirit of God.

Egypt was blessed by Joseph the man of God who by the Spirit of God helped put them in a very good position prior to a major food shortage right across the land.

Joseph brought his family to Egypt where they were blessed and cared for in time of famine, however, the god of mammon who worked in and through the Egyptian Pharaohs eventually brought the Hebrew people into slavery. Until God brought Moses to say “let God’s people go”

If someone gives us of their time and asks for nothing in return, (if on an occasional basis and at their instigation), the dynamic of dignity, honor and respect is still retained. However, when it is

expected over long periods of time, not appreciated, and worse still a requirement for acceptance, yet affirmation and the acceptance held at a distance, never quite being achieved, it is very destructive to the human soul.

The destructive thing that takes place is similar to when a person is held in slavery.

DOES SLAVERY STILL EXIST (Taken from the Australian Prayer network newsletter that arrived in my in box today as I prepared this)

(Editors note: At last weekends Solemn Assembly we were reminded that injustice was called sin by God. People’s inhumanity to others is as prevalent in our generation as it was 200 years ago. We must recognize that as sin and take every step we can to purge it from our society.)

“What is slavery? – A slave, by definition, is anyone who is forced to work through mental or physical threat, owned by an ‘employer’ who uses or threatens abuse, bought and sold as a property and suffers restrictions on freedom of movement.”

Stop here for a moment and reflect with me -

This happens both ways in some church communities not just in the slave trade.

Many people feel the emotional manipulation within their church to perform and serving God is only found in the context of serving the church. If they try to retain some personal dignity with their situation, they are treated differently and even suffer rejection as the tools of mammon come to bear to bring control over the people.

Many Pastors and leaders of churches have been treated like slaves by those they serve. The people only want o give the pastor enough to just survive and very often will demand more and more from the leader, for no more remuneration.

Many people with servants hearts wanting to bless God and His people in church congregations have been treated like this by the clergy.

Now read on from the Australian Prayer News letter…..

These are ordinary people – sons, daughters, mothers and fathers – who end up in horrific circumstances such as:

Bonded labour

This category includes people who have been tricked into taking a loan

out of desperation, sometimes to buy medicine for a sick child. To

repay the loan, they are forced to work long hours, up to 365 days a

year. They are given basic food and shelter but they may never be able

to pay off the debt, which can be passed on to the next generation.

Sadly, it means children are born into a life of slavery.

Forced labour

Adults and children who are illegally recruited by individuals or

companies and forced to work under threat of violence or other severe

penalties.

Early or forced marriage

In some countries, young women and girls are forced to get married at

a young age, against their wishes. Many find themselves in a life of

servitude, often accompanied by physical violence.

Of course we know about Human trafficking – and the like. Children, women, even men, from impoverished communities are sold and treated like commodities, transported in secret across international borders into various forms of labour and prostitution.

Why does slavery still exist?

The reason is always money and greed. Labour costs money, but it’s a lot cheaper to steal people’s labour than pay them.

Lets stop there …….

Allow me to describe some realities to you that happen in our churches…..

“Lee we thought we were going to be assistant pastors, however, after selling up and moving at great cost, it turned out he just wanted someone who could play keyboard, we worked as best we could but seemed to go downhill after that, over the years its just got unbearable”

“Lee I heard the message that Jesus says come as you are, so I did, within weeks I was put in the music team but then it started, to be good enough for God I had to start to change and the rules got harder and harder and I could never quite make it, or give enough or work hard enough to be accepted. The time I spent keeping fit was considered an idol so had to give that up, I started to hide my sin for fear of rejection.”

“The people who leave this church will end up eating with the pigs, they will lose God’s blessing and be cursed”

“Even though you are working for the church as a volunteer, that time you are giving is an offering on top of your tithes and offerings, you can’t expect God to call that time the same as money, its time, not money”

The same person when asked for help….. “time is money don’t waste my time”.

“Pastor you cant expect the church people to pay you a decent wage, where is your faith, can’t you believe for the money to care for your family, and serve us because you love God and His people. A pastor is supposed to be a servant”

A glaring example: A woman working as full time secretary for a ministry who could not afford to pay her, as a result she couldn’t afford school shoes for her children, nor did she have any time to earn the money for their shoes. Yet the Pastor, when I visited was very proud to show me the newest high tech equipment for Sunday services that would have cost many thousands of dollars.

Pastors conferences teach that “people are your greatest resource” and “congregations commit to keeping their leaders humble.”

OK Lets continue ……..

Using deception, abduction or force, human traffickers exploit the situation, and many vulnerable people, especially children, end up as human cargo destined for a life of slavery far from home.

Slavery must be stopped.

Yes it must ……..

I say we must start to see the slavery mentality in the church as a whole, and it starts with identifying wrong attitudes in “my way of thinking” then we take it from there.

Do I think it is ok to use people to build up my resources for my ministry, or do I view any resources God gives me as tools to use to bless people?

Do I see the success of my ministry as so important that I will view my people as resources for that success?

Do I partake of activities within a congregation of people without taking any responsibility for the costs involved?

Do I feel entitled to go to meetings and enjoy the services of ministers without giving of myself or my resources in some way of remuneration for their time and work?

We need to turn it around, refuse to submit to mammon and its principles, and start to submit to the living God, Jesus Christ, by His Spirit begin the upward cycle out of debt and poverty into abundant blessing, and being able to give out of our overfolw as He gives us more than enough to honor others with.

Love and prayers for you the reader to see how to apply this in your own life as I say “mammon by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony you must let God’s people go.”

God’s word on the issue – “a workman is worthy of a wage”

“don’t muzzle the ox that is treading out the grain”

- “if a man wont work he doesn’t eat”

- “you will reap what you sow”

- “you are the head and not the tail above only and not beneath” (so is your brother and

sister in the Lord, treat them that way).

- honor your Father and Mother – (guess what giving money to someone is a form of honor try it with your parents sometime).

- someone who does not take care of his own family is worse than an infidel

- give honor to whom honor is due.

I’m sure when you think about it Holy Spirit will be able to bring many scriptures to mind.

So what do we do from here?

Examine our hearts and attitudes, repent wherever God shines His light, and start the upward spiral with Him.

“Mammon you will let God’s people go, we loose the body of Christ from

your grip and we will not go away back off or be distracted, from

freedom for all who will, abundance for all who will, grace and favor

for all who will, claim the merits of the precious blood of the lamb.

bast you cannot deceive or throw up the illusions, we not only ignore

your illusions we also enforce against you all of the merits of the

blood of Jesus and every effect of your meddling we destroy, and claim

back all you had hoped to take from us as we continue to pursue our

Jesus. Jesus is our Ruler, our King, our one and only Master, we thank

you Jesus for Your victory and that we can continue to walk in it.”

Re v Lee Bacon

View Egypt’s Influence Of Bible Events

Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:17:51 +0000

Gary Colin asked:

1) The bible santa is really an Egyptian book about God of Sun (Ra, re, Tie) and of its Pharaoh Akhenaten of the son (Sun) (Amenhopis IV, Amenhotep IV), and 2) test beyond any possible one refutes that the Pharaoh Akhenaten is & quot prophesized (of the prophecy); Christ anti (antichrist) Beast& quot; from the bible and he has come again (governing on the 13:1 of the Earth revelation – 15; 11:1 of the revelation – extreme). Gary Colin is author of & quot; Symbolism of the bible what means to its Salvation& quot;. You can buy & quot (of the purchase); Symbolism&amp bible; quot; in this website& amp; GT; http://www.webspawner.com/users/biblesymbolismcolin/1) old God Jah was associated originally to the Baal of God. Jah is a name for YHWH Jehovah also called. This explains because the bible santa is deeply influenced by the previous belief and the religion of old Egypt. Baal and Ashtoreth the queen of the sky (whenever the bible speaks of the Virgin and births of Virgin, is referring Ashtoreth. It is the triple dark that existed before the light fought its way with its dark whereas a baby fought through his matrix of s of of Motherâ. Ashtoreth is the queen of stars, planets, the moon, the sun and of the host of s of of heavenâ like sight in chapter 12, 2 kings 23, Matthew 24, 2:1 of the revelation of Joel – 35 and many other locations of the bible), Tammuz, the cross, crying in the cross, the articles Woods-Of wood used in adoring Gods. Baal (the Baal accused with of of â of Satan that accuses ours of of brethrenâ), Baalim, Beezelbub-Jesus, donkey, mule, *** of assocaiates of chapter twelve of one-Revelation, the *** gets to be feminine in numbers 23, numbers 24, numbers 22, Balak, Balaam (prophet of the Baal), Micah (Michael-That is like a God) – angel of Mr.-Be present at son of s of of God and Godâ () of of loâ of of of â, 6:5 of Micah – a connection defined between Barack, Barak (chapters 4 and 5 of judges, and Hebrew 11 – the army of s of of the Filisteos-Godâ of children of God in the Earth). George Pogiatzis (you can investigate it in line) says that chapter 2 of the revelation spells Balak- Balac to inform to students of the bible that this man of Barak-Balak-Baalam would be a black man. Ll of of of Iâ is demonstrating other writings that support the assertion of of of George Pogiatzisâ. George Pogiatzis is a diligent and active student of the bible santa of s of of Godâ. You can verify it towards outside in the orb of the moon of horns of web.baal-ashtoreth-sinbaal- with the cow, bull, heifer, horn-Egypt signs inside moons and stars (2: 1 of Joel – 35; 24:1 of Matthew – extreme; Sun, moon, stars, planets, host of the 23:1 of kings Heaven-2 – aim-Astroreth, Baal, woods, Tammuz, woman who cries, cakes, reign of the sky, chapter 8 (woods of Ezekiel of the ocean, new – Jersey – the baal of Passover 2009, of 5or6 of June of 5 (six five), ashtoreth, gath, dagon, the filisteos, the people of the sea, the dynasty of Gath, Egyptian the eighteen (Pharaoh), the Megiddo-Armageddon-Kaina, the coffer of the agreement, the taken coffer, eli and the children die, coffer taken and placed before dagon, David (they akhenaten) again brought the coffer to the coffer of Dagon- of God (Jerusalem) Agreement-Filisteo-to take to the coffer 1 chapter from Samuel 5 words to the warning: The association of word of Ashdod for Ashtoreth-Goddess de Resurrection-Passover-Act names of the chapter to 12-Herod-Another for God Anpu of the 20:1 dark of Prison-Revelation of bottomless hole – 5; Peter taken (God wife) and kept (order-Son from God (watchmen), only the angel of the gentleman (the Pope called east angel the angel of the resurrection (Passover) released Peter of the prison (bottomless hole) – also Maria Magdalena came to the tomb from from from Jesusâ in the darkness at night (that symbolizes the dark world of from now on, from from netherâ from from from â (the exodus 19-God comes in the dark; The 2:1 of Joel – 35), and the Marys were everything in the tomb of of of Jesusâ in the early dawn (it symbolizes Passover or Ashtoreth) – the world inferior is the bottomless hole and the dark world in which the God routes (also known like Anpu, Akhenaten, Baal, and other names). Whenever the bible uses the secret or the mystery of the word is referring to the dark earthly world (land of the die-bottomless hole, sea, hell, 27:15 of Deuteronomy of ect-; The word of the east of Passover judges 13:18) and pays tribute to the Sun or to God of Sun of the east. One of the holyest days of Christianity is day of Sun (in honor of Ashtoreth-Ash-gray Wednesday Ashtoreth honour). A star of the east took to the wise men to Jesus (2: 1 of Matthew – 2). We can see so the connection between the Egyptian adoration of the Sun (Ra, re, Tie) and be in the moon (God of Baal-Ashtoreth-Cow-Bull-Ox) and the bible using religions. Dagon that was God of the fish of People of the sea is association of word for the dragoon. The Pharaoh of Egypt is great dragoon (12: 1 of the revelation – extreme) that Lieth in means of the Rivers-Ezekiel 29:3. This is the reason for which the Pharaoh of the dragoon of Satan is a lying one and a lying one. 1) when Satan comes to the Earth (the bible uses of of woeâ of of of â of the word to describe Satan that comes to the Earth: Day of the Final Judgment, the time of the hardship, the time of the aid signal, the tamping of the nations), he will be again an assassin. It will take the children and to the daughters in the bottomless sea from regeneration (deceit or possession of of of â they 8:29 of the exodus of of of thereâ) and from the renovation. They will die in the 8:32 of Juan of the meat (it refers to chapter 14 of the exodus the Red Sea) – 44), 2) the Pharaoh de Egipto/de Satan deceive in which it will stop to people in that hole of of of Bottomlessâ of of of â and of of â of t of of wonâ left it of of goâ until regeneration is complete (8: 29 of the exodus – of of sacrificeâ of of of â that Moses is referring to the points the 3:1 burned of Daniel of Offer-Fire-Furnace – 30 of regeneration). This is the reason by which 12:1 of the revelation – 16 refer to Satan the dragoon like: Satan that deceiveth. When the Pharaoh Akhenaten (Beast) revives or reincarnates in satisfaciente chapter 13 of the Earth revelation, it will be as Jesus were in the 3:16 of Juan. It will be the serpent that finishes an age and sends human beings in the sea of regeneration (bottomless hole) – 19:28 of Matthew; 31:17 of the exodus; Titus 3:5. That S-event the rest of the Sabat (extreme) of God. Then God will be 31:17 recovered of the exodus; 3:5 renewed of Titus and taken of of Againâ of of â like the unique one (meant one or 6 Whole: 4) son of God (3: 1 of Juan – 16). The son of the man means that this God comes to the Earth like a man (15: 3 of the exodus, 11) and that causes regeneration (19: 28 of Matthew). God of of of Newâ of of of â is son of that man who comes to the Earth. Thus son of of of â of of of Manâ. The bible makes clear that the Pharaoh Akhenaten was the son of of of Jesusâ of of of â (Yeshua) of God. It was a star of the east (Sun) that took to the wise men to the baby Jesus (Matthew 2: ). When they crucified and one rose to Jesus of deads, the calls of the bible that event the rise of of of â of eliminating of the 16:2 of the mark of Sun (Akhenaten son of s of of Sun Godâ), taking spouses (6: 1 of the genesis – 10-sons of Gods, men of fame, men of the reputation, coffer of of of raptureâ of of of â of Noah (21: 1 of revelation 19 and the revelation – 5) – - the meeting (store of the 21:1 of meeting-Revelation – 5; Store-tabernacle-send-car-Meeting Michael arcángel in the 4:16 of Thessalonians of sky 1 now how I know that the great red dragoon of the 12:1 of the revelation – 16 are east Pharaoh? God has its own definition of words. The bible calls great and the red one refers those children of God. They are the great ones in the Earth of the planet that has corporal fluids of the blood, the sweat and s of of Godâ. These children and daughters of God through the whole bible mention. Some of the locations that are mentioned are in the 6:1 of genesis – 10; The blood acts of chapter 20, and in the garden of Gethsemane or Gathsemane. Whereas Jesus sweated and shouted rasgones of of of â of of of bloodâ, Judas, one of of â of of of twelveâ came with an army to tie and Jesus of of takeâ of of of â. This information is symbolic of the time in which the children of s of of Godâ come with the Pharaoh (angels which they lower to or being thrown to the Earth) to take human beings in regeneration (19: 28 of Matthew; 3:5 of Titus; 31:17 of the exodus). This one that makes angelical drink human beings spirited or the water of of of â in of of wineâ is regeneration and is the union of lamb (104: 1 of psalm – 5; 1 15:47 of Corinthians – 54; Juan 2: – the water drew and fact in the wine Maria or animated it to Ashtoreth; 21:1 of revelation – 5; The union of the revelation 9-The begins like angelical of of â of the birds of of of â (birds) and ejércit

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Biblical Chronology – Egypt Without A Pharaoh For 300 Years

Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:45:04 +0000

I presented in my two previous articles that I’ve shifted Egyptian dynasties 1 through 12 along the timeline earlier by 161 years and I have moved Egyptian dynasties 13 through 20 earlier by 124 years. These shifts are in the same direction along the timeline (earlier) and only have a difference of 37 years (161 years compared to 124 years). This difference in the shifts is relatively insignificant and can be accounted for by the uncertainty in the dates of reigns of dynasties 13-17 (historians acknowledge that the dating of dynasties 13-17 is difficult since many reigns in this period may coincide). Therefore, I essentially only disagree with the dating of the Conventional Egyptian Chronology from dynasties 1 through 20 in the sense that the entire timeline for those dynasties should be shifted earlier in time in the range of 124-161 years.

Dynasties 21 through 26 are a different matter. Since I have shifted these dynasties later in time by 181 years and dynasties 13-20 earlier by at least 124 years there must be a gap in the Egyptian timeline somewhere from the reign of Ramesses III to the reign of Shishak of 305 years! This is a remarkable result. No one in the academic community has even suggested that a discontinuity of the Egyptian dynasties may have occurred. It has been assumed that Egypt has always been powerful enough to rule over itself and its neighbors but it may very well be that Egypt was at the mercy of other invaders from the end of the 20th dynasty to the beginning of the 21st dynasty for about 300 years.

So what happened in Egypt for 300 years?

The question of “what happened to the 300 years” can not be adequately addressed until we analyze Egypt’s position as a nation after the reign of Ramesses III. Since the Exodus of the Israelites occurred during his reign and if you believe the account of the Bible (which I certainly do) Egypt must have been devastated. The ten plagues that occurred during this time would have poisoned the Nile (blood in the Nile), decimated the food supply (locusts), introduced pestilence and disease on a national scale and killed many Eqyptians (Passover angel of death). Now consider the impact to their economy of a workforce of over 2,000,000 Israelite slaves exiting their country (see the book of Numbers for the population of the Israelites at that time). Presumably the population of Egypt in that period should be much less than it is today so the impact of the Israelites on the economy would be much greater.

The scriptures also state that the Israelites were able to “loot” the Egyptians because the Egyptian citizens empathized with their plight and gave them “going-away” gifts of gold and jewelry. Now on top of all of this, as I mentioned earlier, the Egyptian army was essentially destroyed when they were drowned in the Red Sea. So let’s recap, Egypt is decimated by lack of water, disease, pestilence and much of the population has died; its economy is severely weakened by a largely reduced workforce; it has no military. How could anyone believe this nation survived such circumstances? Neither do I believe Egypt was able to survive.

I don’t believe Egypt’s enemies were taking a holiday while all this was occurring either. Libya and the Sea Peoples were the last foreigners that historians have evidence of conducting war with Egypt in the 20th dynasty. Ramesses III was able to rebuff both these invaders. However, after the Exodus I believe there was another invader that became prominent, Egypt’s former slave nation, Israel. Consider what the scriptures say about Israel’s new southern border after they invade Canaan (Numbers 33:5): “And the border shall turn from Azmon to the Brook of Egypt, and its limit shall be at the sea”. If you look up the word “Brook” in the Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance you will find that this word can mean “river valley” which is the interpretation I favor. I do not believe this verse means that the border of Israel started at the Nile River. I believe this is made clear in Joshua 15:47 where the “Brook of Egypt” appears to be close to the city Gaza in the context of the verse.

There is a great deal of distance between Gaza and the Nile, however if you were to look at a topological map of the area you would notice that the hilly mountainous geography of Israel transitions to the much lower flat Nile River Valley in the general vicinity of Gaza. Historians report that Ramesses VI voluntarily brings his forces out of Canaan during his reign. According to The Fourth Day: Why The Bible is Historically Accurate Chronology the Israelites crossed the Jordan River to begin their conquest of Canaan very early in the reign of Ramesses VII. Assuming there exists only a small error in the Conventional Egyptian Chronology, I believe the Israelites actually scared Ramesses VI out of Canaan back into Egypt shortly after they entered Canaan. What is interesting about this is the Bible never mentions Israel skirmishing Egypt. Archaeologists have found evidence that Ramesses VI withdrew his forces from Canaan. In fact Egypt is never mentioned in the Bible from the book of Exodus till the reign of Solomon. It is quite possible that Egypt saw the size of Israel’s army and retreated, thus explaining why it wasn’t recorded in the Bible. Egypt’s retreat is significant since Egypt often used Canaan as a “buffer zone” to prevent other powerful nations like the Hittites, the Babylonians and the Assyrians from invading Egypt. Therefore, not only was Egypt militarily weak it was also caught between three formidable nations, Libya to the west, Ethiopia to the south (this includes present day Sudan) and Israel to the east. I believe that for the next three hundred years Egypt was hemmed in with little chance to recover its former glory.

The Dark Ages of the Eastern Mediterranean

Egyptologists have been insistent that the 30 dynasties of Egypt followed one behind the other with no gap in the timeline between these kings. Is there any historical evidence that supports the idea that Egypt did not have a Pharaoh from 1200 B.C. to 900 B.C.? Consider the fact that virtually every nation in the Eastern Mediterranean went through some dark age, some period without a record of its history during this time. Historians claim that ancient Greece went through a dark age from 12th to the 8th century B.C. between the Mycenean and Archaic Greek civilizations. The Hittites appeared to have a dark age from the 13th to the 10th century B.C. Even the Assyrians appeared to have a dark age of one hundred years from 1000-900 B.C. So if all these neighboring nations of Egypt experienced a dark age period during this time why shouldn’t Egypt?

Also consider that the Greeks alluded to a dark age of Egypt as well. Greek mythology mentions a king of Egypt, Proteus, who became king of Egypt after a period where Egypt did not have a king for five generations (Reference: Greek Mythology Link, author Carlos Parada, http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Proteus3.html). If we assume a generation was a period of 60 years then five generations would be 300 years; certainly a possiblility. So who is Proteus king of Egypt? According to Greek mythology Proteus was king of Egypt during the Trojan War when Paris, prince of Troy, landed at the shores of Egypt with his captive Helen. Apparently Paris had kidnapped Helen, the queen of Sparta. This is the incident that sparked the Trojan War. Herodotus also mentions Proteus in his book The Histories in regard to his role in the Trojan War. If Proteus is the king of Egypt during the Trojan War and because he is the king at the end of the 300 year period of silence in Egyptian history then the Trojan War must have occurred very near 900 B.C. according to the Fourth Day: Why the Bible is Historically Accurate Chronology. Since it was the Mycenean Greeks that invaded Troy then it is very possible there was a gradual change from the Mycenean to the Archaic Greek civilization over a period of one hundred years (900-800 B.C.) This essentially means that there was no dark age in ancient Greece as has been so forcefully argued by Peter James in his book Centuries of Darkness.

So where is the insertion point for this 300 year period of silence in the Conventional Egyptian Chronology? Since this period occurs somewhere in time between the 20th and 21st dynasties of ancient Egypt then the first king after this 300 year period of silence must be in one of these dynasties. Also the first powerful king in Egypt in 300 years would probably make some announcement or edict that would demonstrate that Egypt once again was in control of its own destiny.

I believe the period from Ramesses VI until Ramesses XI meets all the prerequisites of the missing 300 years. Little was recorded about Ramesses VII, VIII or IX. According to Herodotus the next king to succeed Proteus was a king named Rhampsinutus (many historians believe this is the Greek rendering for a king named Ramesses). So which Ramesses was it? I believe he was Ramessses XI. Herodotus states that Rhampsinutus had a “vast fortune in silver” larger than any king of Egypt before him. The only two Pharoahs in Egypt’s history that had silver coffins that have been found were Psusennes of the 21st dynasty and Shoshenq I of the 23rd dynasty. This is significant because I believe this is evidence that Ramessess XI fits better as a king of the 21st dynasty rather than the 20th dynasty.

I propose that Ramesses XI, just like Rhampsinitus, acquired his fortune in working with metals since history records that he erected two great statues at the site of the Temple of Vulcan, the god of metal-working. Ancient Egypt was famous for its gold mines not its silver mines. Silver was mined mostly in Canaan and Mesopotamia. A vast silver fortune would indicate Ramesses XI had become rich in silver by trading other commodities to nations in Canaan (probably horses). Historians also have found that Ramesses XI declared a new marking of time called the “repetition-of-births”. Many of the reigns of the kings of Egypt after Ramesses XI were described in terms of years “in the repetition-of-births” rather than “in the year” of the reigning contemporary king. I believe Ramesses XI was using the repetition-of-births concept to indicate the “rebirth” of the Egyptian nation after 300 years of silence. The evidence of this new marking of time came from an inscription on a wall at the Temple of Karnak that read “year 7 of the Repetition of Births…under Ramesses XI”.

Herodotus also says this king Rhampsinutus instituted a new yearly observation that sounds suspiciously close to the “repetition-of-births”. Herodotus describes how Rhampsinitus went down alive to Hades (the underworld) and played dice with a god called Demeter and he came back alive from Hades with a golden hand towel, his winnings from his game of dice. This story was the basis of a yearly celebration. It sounds like Rhampsinitus symbolically dies and comes alive every year through this celebration. Just one paragraph after Herodotus talks about this celebration, he talks about the following Egyptian religious doctrine.

The Egyptians believed the human body was immortal and when a person died his soul entered an animal; when that animal died his soul continued to be reborn in a long list of animals that included animals from the land, sea and air until his soul entered a human body. This was a cycle believed to last for 3000 years. Again this sounds suspiciously like the idea of “repetition-of-births”. Therefore I believe that the Rhampsinitus described by Greek mythology and Herodotus must be Ramesses XI.

By: Darren Thompson

About the Author:

My name is Darren Thompson and I am a chemical engineer that has worked in the rocket propulsion industry for over 15 years. I hold 10 patents and am the author of over 20 papers in rocket propellant development. I have written two books, “The Fourth Day: Why the Bible is Historically Accurate” and “Why the Bible is Historically Accurate (2nd Edition)” which are available at amazon.com or lulu.com. You can check out my book website at The Fourth Day.