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Was the Egyptian God Horus Crucified?

Posted in Religion on January 16th, 2010
Acharya S asked:


With the astounding success of the movie “Zeitgeist,” there has been a great deal of interest in the Egyptian god Horus. In that movie, which purportedly has been viewed some 100 million times, there were several comparisons between the lives of Horus and Jesus Christ. How true are these comparisons?

As it turns out, they are true for the most part, because they represent mythical motifs, not “history.” And this mythology is largely based on the movements of the sun and other natural phenomena. One of the claims in the movie that draws a large amount of attention is that Horus was “crucified.” Is this claim true?

If you are thinking that it means Horus was killed by crucifixion, being thrown down to the ground and nailed to a cross, then the claim is wrong. But if you understand that “crucify” can simply mean “to affix to a cross,” then the claim is correct, because Horus was both associated with and identified as a cross in ancient times. He was also placed on the cross of the vernal equinox, between two “thieves,” no less! That would make his story even more like that of Jesus Christ, who purportedly lived after these myths were created.

In the first place, it is important to know that the cross in a wide variety of forms, including the ones we usually think of as being “Christian,” was very popular for many centuries before the Christian or common era. The cross can be found on many artifacts in several cultures around the world dating back thousands of years. There are even ancient artifacts with people wearing crosses around their necks, just like we see in Christianity today! Other artifacts such as ossuary urns used to hold the bones of the deceased were marked with crosses centuries before the cross became important in Christianity. The cross in Egypt – the ankh – was a very sacred symbol of eternal life that can be found on countless artifacts. The Egyptians were a very religious people, and they took their faith as seriously as people do today. It is estimated that over the thousands of years during which the Egyptian religion was popular there were at least 500 million worshipers – that’s a half a billion people!

Secondly, we have many artifacts from the ancient world showing gods and goddesses with their arms outstretched in a cross shape, which is called “cruciform.” These figures from religion and mythology, which include the Greek god Prometheus and the Greek princess Andromeda, could be said – and have been said – to have been “crucified.”

The fact is that the cross was a very popular symbol long before the Christian era and that Horus was one of many pre-Christian gods and goddesses who are depicted on a cross or in cruciform. These facts mean that Jesus Christ’s placement on the cross is not unique in religious and mythological iconography. Although it has been written about many times over the past centuries, this history has not been extensively taught in schools or made available through mainstream publications such as textbooks.

For more on this subject, see my article “Was Horus Crucified?”


alexander History in Egypt

Posted in Religion on December 25th, 2009
Derek Dashwood asked:

The power in this story is that this happened 230 years before the birth of Christ and Christianity, and that many more years before before the birth of Mohammed and Islam. But it was within the time that we knew disciples, or followers of Buddha had arrived this far west, and had certainly reached Egypt to Greece, as Aristotle to Alexander, and it trickles down to us.

But who was this holy man at an oasis, so respected and revered in Egypt at this time, to cause mighty Alexander to go seek him, rather than have him or his head brought to him, as soon Darius of Persia? We only know that he did not seek any more than he enjoyed at this oasis, with the life so serene, to meditate heaven, and leave the world to it’s steam.

Alexander made it back to Egypt from those hottest sands on earth, to on and build Alexandria and get on with his destiny. But who was that man Alexander sought out? If he was off a new faith, it did not contain any sword. That wise man was innerly directed as we know quietly to God. Or Nirvana in his words, or how they might say. But he followed eight heavenly virtues, and none includes ****.

Alexander was taught by Aristotle, who learned this while sitting quietly with Socrates as he drank his cup of hemlock for seeing and speaking too well. Count your blessings, do acts of kindness savor life’s joy. Thank you as a mentor, and learn to forgive. In other words please forgive me first also. Stay close to your family, your friends that are true. Take care of your body, it will help see you through. Develop strategies for stresses, and hardships to come.

And those are the people who live longest and have most fun. More healthy, more happy, active and good, church going leader who is gentle with children, puppies, and love. And this comes to our story, and you think it through. The only two holy men at that point in history, unlike the multi god pharoah, who thought of one God then, was a Buddhist, and a Jew.

I wonder what if like Moses, this holy man, so serene, got lost in the desert, wandered west instead of north east with Moses through the Red Sea? Moses was lost: this man had found the promised land in the western desert, if only more fresh water could come in. This would be the place.

How is it that Alexander conquered all that area, was in of all all the mighty great statues of multi headed gods in Egypt, but only almost died in the western desert in search of a famed holy man? In contrast, Alexander conquered all. Inside fabulous Egypt, he was in awe.

In contrast, Alexander considered some holy land tribal areas fanatical in their distorted sense of their own destiny as the chosen people of God. He felt closer to God himself, having deeply discussed this with noble minded scholars in Athens, not these self righteous people of such arrogant zeal. Instead, off to defeat Persia and on to the world.

Alexander noticed there were serenely wise holy men of God, and he knew it had been his near death experience to go through that hell to realize that little moment of Nirvana with that serene man. And here is our what if. What if that was the better navigator Jew, than the louder guy Moses actually had God part the Red Sea, give him a mountain now called Arafat to come down from with ten commandments, but no map.

Meanwhile, the kid brother who commands less but gets the map, headed west. And we say it is time to bring this forward again. In my meditations, Alexander speaks to me through his horse. The front end.

And what we could do, is up river from people in Egypt, and there are quite a few, we divert half the Nile westward and give to that Jew? If we dug a canal west to Quattara, a hole in the earth, science says it would take a century to fill up. By as we know when smart Jews, with the other guy’s map, could negotiate Eden, with oasis each side, work a deal with dear Egypt, they owe it to you, slaves as to market, mercy on a Jew.

Allow new friends Libya, and old slave master Egypt, give grant you a land crescent around Quattara to the sea. If you beloved, wonderful, long suffering Jews once more became great like Alexander, one last final exodus, you would dig that canal soon, begin to fill this Eden hole and leave your hell hole to them. Create a new wall to wail, or better yet, like us, leave our old wounds back somewhere, grow up and beyond.

My ancestors, as yours were, were killed by Romans, at Maiden Castle in Dorset. on order from Rome. We go back and just ponder, and wail at our wall. We went to America, and built ourselves tall. We went west, so could you. Alexander, then Romans, said you were nuts. You conspired to kill Jesus, make us feel guilty to say.

You have here your road map from one wiser than you. You promised land was west, not parting seas just for you.I meditation daily, see loving eyes in Tibet. But when I see stern, lecturing eyes of a new Zionist settler, all dressed in black, while Palestinians since Jesus have called this land home, I sense I know Jesus, and Buddha and God, and this man is not going to the same Eden as I.

Thank you for life God. How you must despair at the **** and reign of anger of Islam fight against the old stern unforgiving Jewish God. Neither of their God or Allah mine, nor that of Buddha, who died serenely in his eighties, in the midst of a loving group meditation, which he began in this world, and completed beyond. Go west, young Jew. Sam, you made the map all wrong.

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The God of Ishmael – a Sermon on Genesis 21

Posted in Religion on December 23rd, 2009
We’ve been working our way through the story of Abraham for some time now – stories about Abraham & Sarah, Abraham & his family, Abraham & his descendents, Abraham and the promises God made to him – Abraham the ‘father of faith’.

We started the story when this aging Bedouin figure had the word of God come to him and, at the age of 72, climbed up onto his camel and headed out into the unknown.

If you have a very good memory, you may remember that Abraham rode from his homeland in Ur up to Haran in the North, then down into Canaan in the South West – to a land that was one day to be named after his grandson, ‘Israel’. And Abraham pitched his tent in that land and he claimed that land by faith, as the rightful homeland of his descendants, even though he was 75 years old and had no descendents.

If you know the story, you will remember that a strange event then took place. Three mysterious men came to visit Abraham and Sarah and shared a prophecy – that these two would have a child of their own within a year.

Abraham at this stage was 99 years old, we are told, and Sarah was well past ‘the way of women’. So she laughed when she heard the prophecy – a laugh of cynical disbelief. But her cynical laugh became a laugh of surprised joy when the baby was born as predicted, and so she called him ‘Isaac’ – meaning ‘she laughed’ (though God knows how she could have been laughing after giving birth in her old age).

It was a great miracle nonetheless. It would be a great miracle if it happened today. Today we have girls as young as 12 in Sydney getting pregnant and giving birth, but not women as old as 70 or 80. That sort of thing only happens in church!

But just when you thought that the story of Abraham was looking like a religious version of The Waltons, we find that things start to turn nasty. Sarah decides to do away with Abraham’s other son Ishmael, along with Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, and Abraham goes along with the plan and more or less condemns the two to death.

It is a grizzly scene. Sarah tells Abraham to get rid of them because she does not want this son of a slave woman to be his heir. Abraham is upset with Sarah because she’s talking about his son. He doesn’t appear to be too worried about Ishmael’s mother, Hagar, who had been his lover. At any rate, he complies and sends them both away.

And you’d think that he’d give them a camel and enough money and supplies to set themselves up somewhere else. He could have done that.

Abraham was a wealthy man. He could have given them enough food and provisions to last them for the rest of their lives. He doesn’t do that. Instead he gives them a loaf of bread and a bottle of water – one bottle of water between the two of them – and sends them off into the desert.

Hagar and Ishmael are not given enough to survive. They are given enough to get far enough away from the camp so that Abraham won’t have to see or hear them die. Well, that’s how it must have been perceived by Hagar and Ishmael at any rate. From the perspective of the author of the book of Genesis it’s not quite that simple.

You see Hagar and Ishmael aren’t simply innocent victims of Sarah’s irrational rage. Hagar used to work for Sarah before she became the mother of Abraham’s heir. This meant that if Abraham died, that Ishmael would be in charge of everything, which would mean that Sarah, if she survived Abraham, would find herself subject to Ishmael and to Hagar. And it’s clear from the story that Hagar has already worked this out, and has started acting a bit too big for her boots.

And Ishmael is not just a happy smiling toddler at this stage. He’s a stroppy young teenager, about 14 years old. And the story suggests that he’s already starting to throw his weight around with young Isaac, as teenagers are apt to do. Isaac gets his revenge of course, more so than he probably expected (or even desired).

And Abraham carries out the grizzly task under protest. He prays about it and gets assurance from God that God will take care of Ishmael (if not Hagar).

Even so, Abraham appears to be almost too faithful in the way in which he leaves it all to God – making no realistic earthly provision for his son or his son’s mother whatsoever. Certainly Ishmael would remember the day when his dad kissed him on the head and said ‘best of luck’, and sent him off into the desert with his bottle of water and with no other means of survival.

Sarah of course comes across as about as endearing as the wicked queen in Snow White when she orders the expulsion of the child, even if her own place of authority in the family was at being placed at risk.

I suppose Isaac had reason to be pleased, though I suspect that he mourned the loss of his brother. I’m sure Abraham shed some tears. Perhaps Sarah laughed again as she saw her enemies leave camp. Perhaps she felt pangs of guilt. We don’t know.

It all has the makings of a good soap opera – one man, two women, multiple children, jealousy, greed and murder. If only we had got the whole crew on Jerry Springer before it reached its tragic climax, with Hagar leaving Ishmael to die under a tree.

Ishmael should have been a strapping young lad by that stage of course, full of energy and young muscularity, and yet he apparently faded even faster than did his mother. Perhaps the emotional shock of it all was more than he could take. At any rate, we’re told that she couldn’t stand to watch him die, so she goes off a distance to die alone. But God ‘hears the cry’ of the boy and He comes to save both mother and son from death.

This is the surely most beautiful verse in the story:

“God heard the voice of the boy, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the boy where he is”. (Genesis 21:17)

It reminds me very much of another word from God that appears a little further down the track of the Biblical narrative, where the descendents of Isaac ‘cried out to God because of their slavery’ in Egypt. And we’re told,

“God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.” (Exodus 2:24)

God, it seems, tends to have his ears open to the cries of the vulnerable. As it happened in Exodus, so it happens here! God hears the cry of the boy and He remembers His promise, not to Israel this time, but to Ishmael!

God had plans for Ishmael! God had made promises to Ishmael. God was going to build out of Ishmael a mighty nation! The interesting thing of course is that this man and these promises and this mighty nation do NOT form any central part of the ongoing Biblical narrative as we have it. This all becomes a part of another story. Dare we say it – it becomes part of the story of Islam!

I think this is why I have never seen a stained-glass window depicting the life of Ishmael.

In our Bibles, the story of Ishmael more or less finishes here. In the Koran though we read of Ishmael going on to Mecca and building a Mosque there. He becomes the physical father of the Arab peoples, and spiritual father to the Islamic community!

Now it’s not my job to tell you whether the account you read of in the Koran is true or false. And it’s certainly not my job to tell you whether you should like or admire Ishmael. What I must tell you though, from Genesis chapter 21, is that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, – the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ – is clearly also the God of Ishmael!

What do we do with that?

Isn’t the Bible the story of God’s salvation of the world through His chosen people, the descendents of Abraham, the Jews, and through that special descendent of Abraham, Jesus? Yes, it is, surely, and through Jesus, we ourselves trace a spiritual link directly back to Abraham.

St Paul would say that Abraham is the father of all of us who have faith. He is the founding father of the people of God, as we count ourselves to be a part of the people of God. Abraham’s people were God’s ‘chosen people’. And now we have been called to be part of that ‘chosen people’ who live by the grace of God in the cross of Christ.

We share a spiritual identity with Abraham and his descendants. Abraham is the father of faith. His story is our story. His people are our people. His God is our God. And yet in Genesis 21, it appears that our God is also Ishmael’s God!

Hagar and Ishmael are persons with whom we do NOT naturally share any spiritual identity. Hagar and Ishmael are NOT the mother and father of faith. Hagar and Ishmael are NOT chosen by God in the same way that Isaac and Jacob are. Surely these people are NOT our people, their story is NOT our story, and yet … OUR God turns out to be THEIR God too!

I don’t know if you feel uncomfortable at the thought of your spiritual connection to Ishmael. If it doesn’t irk you particularly, try to see it from the perspective of the ancient Jews, who were the first intended recipients of this Biblical story. Think about it from the perspective of a modern Jew! For it is the Palestinian people who are the modern descendents of Ishmael.

Most Jews do not feel a great sense of natural kinship with their Palestinian brethren: “Your history is NOT my history. Your people are NOT my people. This land is NOT your land.” And yet … here in Genesis 21 we are straightforwardly reminded that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is their God too!

I don’t know if you’ve met many Ishmaels. I’ve met a few. You don’t meet many here in church on a Sunday morning. They’re not generally at church, any more than they’re at the synagogue. You’ll find Ishmael and his buddies down at the mosque. They are a different people, different history, different religion. And yet … they are children of the same God!

Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that all religions are the same (that’s what you say when you don’t take anybody else’s religion seriously). And I’m not saying that it doesn’t’t make any difference how you think of God or how you speak of God or how you respond to God. Of course it does. What I am saying is just what Genesis says: that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants is also the God of Hagar and Ishmael and their descendents.

God loved Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and He loved Ishmael and his children too. God had a special plan for the life of Abraham and his descendents, and that He had a special plan for the life of Ishmael and His descendents as well.

“Hear O Israel” Moses would later say “Hear O Israel that the Lord thy God, the Lord is one.” There is only one God. He is the God of both brothers – Isaac and Ishmael. He is the Lord of both nations – both Jews and Palestinians. Ultimately He is the Lord and heavenly father of us all!

God ‘heard the cry’ of young Ishmael as he lay dying under the tree, just as God later ‘heard the cry’ of the Israelites under ******* in Egypt, just as God hears our cries and our prayers, as He hears the cries and the prayers of those who have nothing to do with us – those who are not part of our church, and not part of our religion.

We may well understand more of God than many of our neighbours. It may well be true that many here have a deeper experience of the presence of God than would most of our neighbours. It is almost certainly true that most of us here are serving God more deliberately and faithfully than are many persons in our community. And yet, in the final analysis, our God is their God. Their God is my God. The God who loves me and bleeds for me is the same God who loves and bleeds for them. Because the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the God of Ishmael too!



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Is Egypt the Lord’ people in the Bible?

Posted in Religion on December 23rd, 2009
Prof.dr. Ibrahim Khalil asked:

Is Egypt the Lord’ people in the Bible?

Yes

The Lord says in Isaiah 19:25: “Blessed is Egypt My people”.

Being an Egyptian, I feel proud that Egypt is the Lord’ people!

But again, this verse encourages racial discrimination; it shows that mankind is unequal, Egypt is the Lord’ people while other countries are not!

if this verse holds true then what about the Chinese, the Japanese, the European, the Americans etc.?

Do not all of these nations for examples have the right to be the Lord’ people if they are righteous?

Also, what makes Egypt the Lord’ people? Do not you remember what the Pharaoh of Egypt had done with Moses and the Israelites?

Isaiah 19:25 in different versions of the Bible:

New International Version (NIV)

The LORD Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people,

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

Whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed is Egypt My people,

The Message (MSG)

Blessed be Egypt, my people…

King James Version (KJV)

Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be Egypt my people,

English Standard Version (ESV)

Whom the LORD of hosts has blessed, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people,

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Is Egypt the Lord’ people in the Quran?

No, they are not.

The Quran declares clearly that there is no a specific nation(s) which is the Lord’ people. Also, the Prophet Muhammad said that there no privileges for the Arabic over the non-Arabic and also there no privileges for the white over the black except in respect to the Lord fearing. The more you fear your Lord, the more you are close to Him.

Again, in order to confuse, the Quran says in two verses [2:47 and 2:122] that Allah favored the children of Israel. This happened at the time of Pharaoh and Moses when the children of Israel were believers and fear of their Lord.

Verse 49:13 of the Noble Quran announces that:

O mankind! Allah has indeed created you male and female from Adam and Eve, and has made you nations and tribes that you may come to know one another. This means that you may acquire knowledge of the customs of one another and not to boast to one another.

Truly the noblest of you in the sight of God is the most God-fearing among you.

Lo! The noblest of you in the Hereafter, (in the sight of Allah) on the Day of Judgment, (is the best in conduct) in the life of the world;

Truly God is Knower, of you, Aware, of your inner thoughts.

Lo! Allah is Knower of your status and lineage; Allah is Aware of your works and standing in His sight.

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Verse 49:13 of the Noble Quran in different translations:

QARIB: people, we have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes that you might know one another. The noblest of you before Allah is the most righteous of you. Allah is the knower, the aware.

SHAKIR: O you men! surely we have created you of a male and a female, and made you tribes and families that you may know each other; surely the most honorable of you with Allah is the one among you most careful (of his duty); surely Allah is knowing, aware

PICKTHAL: O mankind! lo! we have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. lo! The noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is knower, aware.

YUSUFALI: O mankind! we created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. and Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).

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Back to the main issue of my series of articles; this is my question to you smart readers: “Is the Quran quoted from the Bible?”

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Passover Celebration: the Reassurance of God’s Presence

Posted in Religion on December 16th, 2009
Passover is our reassurance from God that he is there to provide us redemption whenever we need Him. Our part is only to invoke Him with pure faith. He will move mountains if need be, for His children’s sake. Lets have a look at the history of Passover, where God showers his miracles to save his children, and then take a look at the present celebrations of Passover, and then delve deep into the true meaning of it.

History -

The history of Passover is 3000 years old. The Israelites were held captive by the Egyptian Pharaoh, Ramses II. The Pharaoh enslaved them. It was Moses, a simple shepherd who heard God’s command of redeeming them from their slavery. God showed him, that he was the one who would lead the Jews to the Promised Land. Moses, interestingly was born of Israelite parents, but was raised up at the Egyptian royal palace by an Egyptian Princess who could not bear a child. But, his life took a different turn, and God spoke to him about his great responsibility of leading the slaves to a bright future, where they would not have to be slaves of men, but would be followers of the true God. Although, Moses was rich(being a prince before), yet he became poor. He forsook all his riches for the Israelites and plead the Pharaoh to free them.

The proud Pharaoh would not agree to free them and God had to intervene. He send ten plagues in Egypt as a punishment that devastated the land completely. The plagues were as follows:

1.Blood , instead of water

2.Frogs

3.Lice (vermin)

4.gnats

5.Blight (Cattle Disease)

6.Boils

7.Hail

8.Locusts

9.Darkness

10.Slaying of the First Born

It was the Last plague where God warned that he would slain all the first born children of Egypt. Moses could hear the Lord’s voice at each moment. This time God commanded the Israelites as below:

Four days before the Exodus(exit from Egypt), the Israelites were commanded by the Lord to set aside a lamb or kid. During the 14th day, they were to sacrifice the lamb and smear its blood to mark their door . Up until midnight on the 15th day, they were to consume the lamb. Each family (or group of families) gathered together to eat a meal that included the meat of the Korban Pesach while the Tenth Plague ravaged Egypt. Whereas, the Israelites were safe inside their homes, Egyptian mothers cried for their first born children. This plague even killed the Pharaoh’s son’s. The Pharaoh had no choice but to fear the God of the Israelites, and he let them free, finally.

Celebrations Today

Passover is celebrated mostly by the Jews over the world. In Israel, Passover is a seven day festival. Muslims also observe a fast commemorating the Egyptian liberation of Israelites, they call it Ashura. Even the Eastern Orthodox Christian Church observes Passover according to the Jewish calendar. Not to forget that these three religions have a common origin and all of them regard Moses as one of the few God-send prophets.

The True Meaning of Passover

Isaiah. 31:5: “As birds hovering, so will the Lord of hosts protect Jerusalem; He will deliver it as He protecteth it, He will rescue it as He passeth over”

With time history fades off, Moses no longer exists among us physically. 3000 years later, presently, Passover reassures that God delivers his disciples , protects them , rescues them from all plagues and passes over all dangers of life. With the increase in violence, terrorist acts, abductions, **** and basic lack of love among human beings, man can only have faith and look up to the Divine Power. In a dark world like ours, only a divine intervention (much like Moses’ time) can pave the way to enlightenment. On this Passover, whether a Jew or not, lets all commemorate the Lord’s power, and recall all those moments, on this Passover, when He saved us from grave dangers.

“Keep on believing, God answers prayer!

Keep on believing, He’s still up there!”

He has never failed in one of His good promises!



By: dorothy smith

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